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E58: Dwayne Norris on Race Relations in America

December 4, 2020
Dwayne Norris of Soulful Synergy joins Michael Angelo Caruso for an open and honest conversation about race relations in the United States.

At the time of this recording these two gentlemen were acquaintances, but didn't know each other well.  They tackle difficult and challenging topics.  This particular conversation is more about dialog than it is about identifying solutions.

3:00 The best educated society ever? 4:00 Is tone (such as empathy) set at the top? 5:00 What happens when you let people inside your head 7:00 Separating politics from ideals and civic values 10:00 Being articulate and educated helps one cope 12:00 How civic engagement relates to accountability
13:45 Basic needs allow for reasonable dialog 15:00 Does protesting help or hurt? 18:15 How helpful is virtue signaling? 19:15 What happens after 90% of us start "taking a knee?" 23:00 Revisionism, re-evaluating statues (Woodrow Wilson, Thomas Jefferson)
24:27 The value of looking forward even if symbols have power 26:15 Whitewashing the Incas, Mayans, Native Americans 27:30 Infer vs. imply (are statues ok in museums?) 30:00 Why is a George Washington statue ok, but not a Teddy Roosevelt statue? 31:30 Do we make problems SMALLER than they really are? 31:00 Malcolm Gladwell on the Sandra Bland incident
34:00 The art of challenging authority 40:00 When authority is not articulate or well trained 41:00 Triggering as related to real and perceived subjugation 42:45 Where are we headed--exactly? 43:15 Fair pay, social equity, people over profits 46:00 Thomas Sowell (and now Candace Owens)
48:30 Soulful Synergy 50:15 Amazon, Wal-Mart and minimum wage 51:15 Is it ok for Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos to eventually give away their fortunes? 55:00 Which black business owner is a good role model for fair pay? 57:30 Accountability regarding social contracts 59:30 How can we measure success? 60:30 George Floyd, police brutality 61:30 Let's keep talking and making progress!
Both Dwayne and Michael are Rotarians. Rotary is the largest and best service organization in the world.  Dwayne Zoomed in from his home office in Harlem, New York. Michael appeared from his home office in Rochester, Michigan.
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